Pedro Conrade went one real into overdraft. His bank charged him R$46 for the privilege, before interest. It was an impressively expensive way to borrow almost nothing. Conrade could have paid, complained, and got on with his day. Instead, he started looking at the business that had produced the bill.
The episode became the origin story of Neon, the Brazilian financial technology company he founded in 2016. The arithmetic is memorable because it is so lopsided. A tiny shortfall had set off a charge that seemed to belong to a much larger mistake. For a customer watching every expense, the distinction between the amount borrowed and the cost of borrowing was hardly academic.
As he examined his statements, the problem grew. He was paying the equivalent of a monthly minimum wage each year in bank fees while earning only a little more than that amount each month. A service meant to help manage money had become another persistent claim on it. The bill gave him a question worth building a company around: could banking leave more money, and more control, with the customer?
Before the app, a shop by the sea
Conrade had already tried selling things that people could hold. At 16, he opened a bikini shop in Guarujá, on the coast of São Paulo state. His father, Edson, helped him get started. Buying clothes in São Paulo and selling them back on the coast brought him into direct contact with customers long before he had a banking app to study.
He moved to São Paulo to study business administration at Fundação Getulio Vargas on a scholarship. He joined its junior enterprise, then left to pursue a group-buying business. That venture did not work out. A period at Babson College added another setting in which to learn about entrepreneurship. An invitation to speak at FGV in 2017 described him leaving with three subjects remaining to devote himself to building businesses.
The route matters because it contains several kinds of education: the shop counter, the classroom, and a business that failed. Conrade also worked in Startup House Brasil, a venture builder. By the time banking fees caught his attention, he had already experienced the difference between having an idea and persuading someone to pay for it.
A card was a beginning
The first response was Controly, a prepaid card connected to an app. It offered a practical way to control spending: money went onto the card before it went out. An early 2015 description placed Conrade alongside technology partner Júlio Dário and design partner Daniel Benevides. The combination of finance, software, and design was there before the Neon name.
The business model also had an unglamorous detail. A merchant paid a transaction fee when someone used the card. At that stage the revenue went to Controly’s partner; becoming an issuer was part of the plan. Even this relatively simple product depended on arrangements behind the screen. The customer saw a card. The company had to assemble the machinery that made it work.
In his 2018 account of the journey, Conrade said the small team reached 10,000 customers. People liked the proposition, but a prepaid card could not cover their whole financial lives. It lacked the range of a current account, including credit, investments, and some transfers. Customers arrived and then left. The team had to understand why an appealing introduction had failed to become a lasting relationship.
A partnership with a bank in Minas Gerais supplied the foundation for a broader service. Neon followed in 2016. Conrade’s ambition was to keep serving customers as their needs changed, from everyday payments to bigger purchases later in life. Building that relationship required more than a successful sign-up screen.
The youngest person in the meeting
Being a young founder in banking invited an obvious question: what did he know? Conrade’s response was to recruit people who knew more. In 2018, he described wanting to be the least knowledgeable person in a room of capable colleagues. His technology chief should know technology better than he did. Otherwise, why hire a technology chief?
He recalled recruiting an experienced credit leader who asked what the job would involve. Conrade’s answer was that he knew where the company wanted to go; the specialist had the knowledge to help it get there. That admission gave experience a useful place in the business. It also spared everyone the spectacle of a founder pretending to have mastered a career’s worth of banking overnight.
“Nós abolimos essa palavra do vocabulário da empresa,” he said of the word “chefe”: they had removed “boss” from the company vocabulary. He argued for shared responsibility and explanations rather than orders. The approach depended on proximity, open information, and listening. His account included everyday contact with colleagues over lunch, games, and coffee. Leadership, in this telling, needed to be accessible enough for someone to interrupt it.

Three days to find another way
On May 4, 2018, the arrangements underneath the app became impossible to ignore. Brazil’s central bank liquidated Banco Neon, the banking partner that had previously been called Pottencial. Neon Pagamentos, Conrade’s fintech, was a separate company. The shared name made that distinction much harder to communicate at precisely the moment it mattered.
The timing was brutal. The startup had announced a R$72 million investment round the previous day. Conrade then woke to news about the partner bank. He said the central bank called to explain that the action did not concern the startup. That reassurance did not restore the services that depended on the partner.
Neon had roughly 600,000 customers whose digital accounts needed an operating bank. Money belonging to those customers was protected from the partner’s liquidation, but the fintech still had to find a replacement. Some everyday functions were interrupted. Customers needed access, and a legal distinction between two similarly named businesses was a poor substitute for a working payment.
On May 7, Neon announced a partnership with Banco Votorantim. Three days separated the shock from the announcement of a new partner. Restoring services was the next task. Looking back in 2019, Conrade described a year in which Neon went on to launch credit cards and a business account and more than doubled its customer base. The crisis had become part of the company’s history rather than its ending.
- 03 MAYR$72 million funding announced
- 04 MAYPartner bank liquidated
- 07 MAYBanco Votorantim partnership announced
When a customer likes you, then leaves
As Neon expanded, Conrade became more willing to question his own appetite for expansion. He had once wanted to launch products constantly. By 2023, he described a much harder threshold for saying yes. The work shifted toward improving existing products, retaining customers, and making the account useful enough for people to stay.
“Today, I try to say no to everything,” he said. It is an unusual sales pitch for a founder, and an understandable response to discovering how much work follows a launch. A product adds obligations: maintenance, support, and a continuing reason for someone to use it. The launch date is a milestone that arrives early in that relationship.
His account of acquisitions carried a similar lesson. Integration mistakes in an early purchase had been expensive to repair. He came to judge success partly by whether people from an acquired company remained engaged years later. Teams had to want the combination to work. Ownership could change with a contract; motivation needed a longer conversation.
“Today, I try to say no to everything.”Pedro Conrade, 2023
Fifteen million accounts, ordinary needs
By February 2022, the company had 15 million registered accounts. BBVA agreed to invest US$300 million, joining an investor group that already included General Atlantic, BlackRock, PayPal, and Banco Votorantim. The round took Neon to unicorn status, the startup shorthand for a valuation of at least a billion dollars.
The customer mix was more revealing than the label. Neon said 88 percent of its customers belonged to Brazil’s C, D, and E socioeconomic classes. Its proposition covered individuals, self-employed people, and small businesses. Free accounts, cards, and access to credit addressed needs that repeated every working day. The investment announcement promised more resources for technology, products, and the ability to lend.
A large funding round offers a company choices. It does not make those choices for the founder. Conrade’s recurring concern was whether growth would produce services people could actually rely on. An account number in a headline and an account used to pay a bill describe very different kinds of achievement.
A different chair at the same company
In December 2024, Fernando Miranda became Neon’s sole CEO. He had shared leadership with Conrade since 2022. Conrade moved to executive chairman, taking another position in the company he had built. The transition made room for a different division of responsibility as Neon pursued sustainable profitability.
The numbers at the time kept the ambition grounded. Neon had lost R$278.9 million in the first half of 2024. Miranda said the company was comfortable targeting sustainable profitability in the following year. A founder’s story can sound inevitable when told backwards. A loss on the way to a promised profit brings the uncertainty back into view.
In March 2026, Conrade was still revisiting earlier decisions in public. He discussed efficiency, experienced teams, and the difficulty of absorbing acquisitions. He also described a savings lesson: a budgeting tool had found little use among customers whose self-employed income did not follow a fixed monthly pattern. Products had to accommodate the way money arrived, rather than assume a tidier calendar.
In October 2026, he reported R$43.2 million in consolidated net profit for the first half of the year, calling it Neon’s first profitable half-year. He said revenue and the credit portfolio had each grown by more than 23 percent over the preceding year, while expenses rose 2 percent. Those were his reported results, and a different set of numbers from the fee that started everything.
The question travels
Conrade now helps other founders as well as working on Neon. Endeavor recorded 25 hours of support for entrepreneurs in 2025. Its 2026 Outliers page listed him as having reached 52 entrepreneurs that year. Advice acquired through difficult decisions was circulating beyond the company where he had learned it.
He has also described himself as quiet and family-oriented, with long-standing friendships and little instinct for celebrating business milestones. The next unresolved problem tends to arrive in his mind before the current success has finished. That gives the portrait a familiar complication: someone who can build a company around customer frustration may find frustration a remarkably durable fuel.
The one-real bill remains a useful place to return. It shows how a routine transaction can expose the distance between a financial service and the person using it. Conrade began by noticing that distance as a customer. Years later, with a different title and a much larger company, he still has to close it one product, one decision, and one working account at a time.
More of the conversation
- Neon
- Pedro Conrade on LinkedIn
- The J Curve: watch the 2026 conversation
- Like a Boss: listen to the 2018 interview
- The 2018 Forbes interview
- The 2022 Draft interview
- Operator Stories: products and acquisitions
- The December 2024 leadership transition
- Conrade’s October 2026 results update
- Endeavor’s 2025 impact report