Breaking Joanna Wiebe coined "conversion copywriting" in 2011 - and the industry has been playing catch-up ever since // THE COPYSELLING SYSTEM - her first big-five book - drops July 21, 2026 from BenBella / Simon & Schuster // 70,000+ copywriters trained through Copyhackers Copy School - the gold standard since 2011 // Clients include AWS, Canva, Shopify, Intuit, Prezi, Sprout Social - and companies acquired by Microsoft, IBM, and Zillow // Copyhackers.com transitions to JoannaWiebe.co in 2026 - brand reborn as JO for enterprise consulting // Joanna walks her cats on leashes. This is not a drill. //
Profile
Joanna Wiebe, founder of Copyhackers and the original conversion copywriter
Founder - Author - Conversion Copywriter

JoannaWiebe

She dropped two words. Built an empire. Sold it back to you as a course.

The woman who invented "conversion copywriting" - by literally removing "-focused" from a longer phrase - and turned that naming decision into a two-decade career training 70,000+ writers, consulting for Fortune 100 companies, and writing words that actually move money.

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The Origin Story

The Post That Changed Everything

In 2010, a copywriter at Intuit - already good enough to know she was better than most - posted on Hacker News offering to give feedback on startup founders' website copy. The thread went sideways in the best possible way. Founders flooded her inbox. And Joanna Wiebe realized she had accidentally identified a market that nobody was serving.

A year later, she quit Intuit, wrote four ebooks over a few weeks, posted about them on Hacker News, and made $20,000 in days. No marketing budget. No PR team. One post, one page, and copy that did its job. She called the company Copyhackers. She called the discipline she taught "conversion copywriting" - a phrase she'd arrived at by simply removing "-focused" from the longer term she'd been using. That precision, that willingness to strip language down to its load-bearing parts, would become the signature of everything she built.

Before all of this, she'd been a janitor at her high school, a creative writing student winning the James Patrick Folinsbee Prize twice, a law school dropout who couldn't stomach another brief. She had an MA in Communications and Technology from the University of Alberta and a gift for sentences that don't waste your time. She just needed to find the context where those sentences could be tested.

"If research isn't your biggest task, you're probably doing it wrong."
- Joanna Wiebe on Voice of Customer research

The thing about conversion copywriting - as she defines it - is that it isn't clever. Cleverness is a crutch. It's the writer showing off when they should be listening. Wiebe's method starts with reading: actual customer reviews, support tickets, forum posts, the precise language real people use when they're struggling with a problem your product solves. You mine those words. You use those words. Science first. Art gets to come in later, if there's room.

This framework, applied rigorously, is what let her walk into companies like AWS, Canva, Shopify, Prezi, and Huel - and leave their copy materially different and measurably better. Not "better" in the vague sense that makes marketers nod. Better in the sense of more conversions, more revenue, more people saying yes at the moment it counted.

The Method
How She Thinks

Science First. Art Second. In That Order.

Wiebe makes a distinction that most marketers talk around but never actually commit to: the difference between copy that sells and copy that connects. The former is a list of features dressed up in verbs. The latter is a mirror - it reflects back to the reader exactly what they were already thinking, already feeling, already afraid of, and then shows them the door out.

The research phase is non-negotiable. Voice of Customer (VOC) research - mining reviews on Amazon, G2, Capterra, Reddit, app stores - is where real copywriting begins. Not at the keyboard. Not with a creative brief from a client who thinks they know their audience. Out in the digital wild, where customers tell the truth because nobody important is listening. Except Joanna. She's always listening.

From there, the message hierarchy becomes clear: what do they already believe? What are they afraid of? What exact phrase did three separate people use to describe the problem your product solves? That phrase, almost verbatim, belongs in your headline. Because it's not your job to be original. It's your job to be recognized.

The Wiebe Framework

Message before medium. Research before writing. Voice of Customer before voice of brand. Get the science right, then let the art in. Copy that doesn't convert isn't copy - it's decoration with ambition.

This is also what makes her teaching different from the ten thousand copywriting courses that appeared after she made the format legitimate. Most courses teach style. Wiebe teaches process. The difference between a freelancer who charges $500 a page and one who charges $5,000 isn't talent - it's research, structure, and the confidence to say: this is what the data shows, and here's why we're changing the headline.

She built Copy School around that process. Twenty-five programs. Courses on emails, landing pages, SaaS copy, homepage messaging, launch sequences, funnel writing. And Freelancing School - because writing good copy and running a business that sells it are two completely different skills that most people try to learn simultaneously and fail at both.

"Once you get the message right, then you can layer in the artistry. Science comes first, and then the rest is art."
"You won't truly know what works until you put it in front of your audience."
"Never expect that things that work for other people will work for you."
"It all comes down to what's on the page - that's where the money changes hands."
The Career Arc
Timeline

From Agency Grunt to Category Creator

Late 1990s - 2000s
Seven years working her way up through agencies as a copywriter and content strategist. Wrote everything. Got paid for almost none of it with measurable results.
2009-2011
Joined Intuit as Senior Copywriter. First time her copy was measured against actual outcomes. This changed everything about how she thought about writing.
2010
Posted on Hacker News offering copy feedback to startup founders. Inbox exploded. Market identified.
2011
Left Intuit. Self-published four ebooks. Posted on Hacker News. Made $20,000 in days. Copyhackers was born.
2011
Coined "conversion copywriting" - the term that would define a discipline and a career. Just removed "-focused" from the phrase she'd been using.
2017
Co-founded Airstory, a SaaS drag-and-drop document builder for collaborative research and writing. Addressing what she called the "Actually-Write-the-Thing Gap."
2019
Married Christopher Bain in Edmonton, Alberta. Moved to Kelowna, BC.
2020s
Expanded Copy School to 25+ programs, 70,000+ students. Launched enterprise consulting under the CH Agency banner.
2024
Launched Money Words newsletter on Substack - focused on word choice, linguistic persuasion, and getting more people to say yes.
2025-2026
Signed with BenBella / Simon & Schuster. The Copyselling System drops July 21, 2026. Brand transitions from Copyhackers to JoannaWiebe.co - abbreviated "JO" for enterprise work.
Selected Enterprise Clients
AWS Canva Shopify Intuit BT Huel Prezi Sprout Social Tesco MetaLab Buffer Glowforge Wistia VWO Bitly CrazyEgg + IBM acquisition + Microsoft acquisition + Zillow acquisition
The Book
New Book

The Copyselling System

The Secret System for Driving Conversions and Maximizing Revenue. Twenty years of consulting work, distilled into a framework that works whether you're a solo founder or a Fortune 100 team. From BenBella Books / Simon & Schuster.

BenBella Books / Simon & Schuster - July 21, 2026

THE COPYSELLING SYSTEM

JOANNA WIEBE
The Person
Off the Clock

The Cat-Walker Who Can't Swim

Here's what you don't get from the conference talk: Joanna Wiebe walks her cats on leashes around her Kelowna neighborhood. Not ironically. Not for content. Just because the cats seem to enjoy it, and the cars slow down regardless. In a neighborhood full of people who probably have opinions about cat behavior, she's decided the cats' happiness outweighs the optics.

She cannot swim - and is deeply afraid of water - despite having spent a year living in Japan. A country surrounded by ocean on all sides. She apparently navigated this fine. She runs half-marathons roughly every other weekend, which tells you something about her tolerance for sustained discomfort. She learns Spanish when the mood strikes her. She prays. She drinks wine with her husband Christopher and their friends, probably dissecting headlines over the glass.

In her early career she cleaned her high school as a janitor, then won the same national creative writing prize twice as an undergraduate, then enrolled in law school, then dropped out because briefs are not copy. The through-line is someone who refuses to be bored by their own choices. Every pivot has been toward something more interesting and more measurable.

Working for Copyhackers, her team members have said, is like running a marathon. The feedback is specific. The standards are unmovable. And when you're done, you're proud of exactly what got made. That's not a coincidence. It's the philosophy applied inward - clear criteria, honest measurement, no decorative language about how great everyone is.

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Walks her cats on leashes around Kelowna, BC. Cars slow down. She keeps walking.

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Cannot swim and is petrified of water. Lived in Japan for a year. Apparently unrelated.

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Runs half-marathons every other weekend. Because apparently that's a manageable frequency.

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Dropped out of law school to become a copywriter. The legal profession's loss is the internet's gain.

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Won the James Patrick Folinsbee Prize for Excellence in Creative Writing twice as an undergraduate. Once wasn't enough.

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Made $20,000 from four self-published ebooks, one Hacker News post, and zero marketing spend. Year: 2011.

What's Next
2026 and Beyond

Copyhackers Becomes JO

The brand is changing. Copyhackers - the name that defined a generation of scrappy startup writers on a mission to convert - is evolving. JoannaWiebe.co is the new primary address. "JO" is the shorthand for the enterprise consulting practice. The ebooks that kicked this off in 2011 are giving way to a Simon & Schuster hardcover in July 2026. She says she's writing two more after that.

The through-line isn't the name. It's the framework. Whatever the brand is called, the argument stays the same: copy is the difference between a product that gets found and ignored and one that gets bought. The research tells you what to say. The message hierarchy tells you where to say it. The test tells you if you were right. And then you do it again, better, with the evidence you now have.

Vishen Lakhiani of Mindvalley named her one of the world's greatest copywriters alongside Frank Kern and Eugene Schwartz - the latter of whom spent decades writing direct mail that moved millions of units. That's the lineage she sits in: direct response, but built for the web, rebuilt for SaaS, rebuilt again for AI-assisted writing in 2024 and 2025. Always the same principles. Always the same insistence that words have jobs, and jobs can be measured.

"Write like a human. Convert like a badass."
- Copyhackers tagline / Joanna Wiebe
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