
He trained for law, spent years in diplomacy and helped take Mercari abroad. At Sakana AI, Ren Ito brings that habit of crossing borders to a new question: how should Japan build its own future in AI?
He tried to bring opening night into the living room, then helped turn movie magic into software. Now the Stability AI chief is asking an anxious creative business to help design the machine at its door.

In a wide-ranging interview on the Beyond Tomorrow podcast, Stability AI founder Emad Mostaque argues that within 30-40 years every country will be run by AI, that democracy is in its final decade or two, and that most digital jobs will be economically irrelevant within roughly a thousand days. He puts his personal probability of catastrophe (P-doom) at 50%, warns of intelligence being rationed by a duopoly of powerful labs, and lays out a counter-vision: sovereign, collectively owned 'national champion' AI utilities that give every citizen access to intelligence and a share of the robot fleet. Along the way he explores AI personhood, brain-computer interfaces, longevity escape velocity, quantum computing, and whether we should push a button to eliminate all human suffering.