A Craigslist job brought Joe Kelly to a physics department. Two companies later, he is still working on a problem that sounds simple until money enters the room: how much control should one person have?

A teenage life at sea taught Joe Kelly that control is precious and certainty is mostly theatre. Years later, he turned that lesson into Unchained - a financial company designed so no single party holds all the keys.

Laura Shin is the leading voice in crypto journalism - host of the Unchained podcast, author of The Cryptopians, and founder of Unchained Crypto. A Stanford and Columbia-educated journalist, she was the first mainstream reporter to cover cryptocurrency full-time, amassing 25+ million downloads and solving one of crypto's biggest mysteries: the 2016 Ethereum DAO hack.