Dario Amodei

Anthropic co-founder and CEO Dario Amodei sits for a wide-ranging interview at what the host calls the center of the AI universe. He describes the felt experience of running the fastest-growing company in the industry as a 'smooth exponential' that feels like accelerating away from Earth at relativistic speed. Amodei explains why Anthropic bet on enterprise and coding over splashy consumer apps, recounts why he left OpenAI (a loss of trust, not merely a safety disagreement), and defends the company's controversial choices: working with the Department of Defense while drawing red lines against mass surveillance and autonomous weapons, warning about entry-level white-collar job loss, and holding back Mythos, a cyber model so capable that early testers called it a 'super weapon.' Throughout he returns to a single thesis: respond to AI's accelerating power rationally and steadily, never 'yo-yoing' between complacency and panic.